The Black & White Experience (Pt. 2: Facing Racism)



After sharing our experiences with you all, it's a good thing to educationally explain some of the concepts and situations that we faced. In this episode, Brandon & Amy Beth lead a discussion on different types of culturally sensitive issues including that of white privilege, redlining, and systemic racism. This topic can be uncomfortable for some people, so we advise bringing your listening & learning ears to the conversation. While this will be our last podcast (for now) on this topic, we highly encourage self-exploration into this topic. A list of resources you can learn from is listed below the Time Stamps.

Time Stamps:

00:01 - Discussion Disclaimer with Amy Beth

00:53 - Peas in Progress Intro

01:31 - Explaining our Experience / What keeps us from talking about racism?

13:01 - Who decided Race? / Brandon reads from the book: White Fragility by Robin Diangelo (pg 17)

15:04 - Defining Racism / Googled terms you should be familiar with

25:50 - Cultural Appropriation: The Harlem Shake

26:53 - The Harlem Shake:

27:27 - The ORIGINAL Harlem Shake:

28:41 - Defining Experiences / More terms you should know

33:51 - The Politics of Race / The Story of Jackie Robinson // Amy Beth Reads from the book: White Fragility (pg 26)

35:16 - Let's talk about this

36:10 - White Supremacy (read from White Fragility page 30-31)

38:20 - How Can We Move Forward With ALL This?

43:43 - Closing with a quote from Robin Diangelo

Anti-Racism Resources:

Book: White Fragility by Robin Diangelo

Book: White Rage by Carol Anderson, PhD

Podcast: Episode 34 - Black and White: Racism in America from The Liturgists Podcast in Podcasts:

Youtube: How to Talk About Race, Identity, & Activism Online with Franchesca Ramsey & Marie Forleo

Anti-Racism Self-Work Resource: Me and White Supremacy Work Book created by Layla F. Saad:

Social Activists & Educators to follow & learn from on Instagram:







Song Credits:

Intro & Outro: in my life by datfootdive:

Green Leaves by Kupla:

Numero Uno by Mister Carver:

Layers by MARTIN $KY:

90s Mindz by Dr. Drummah:

The Black & White Experience (Pt. 1: Dealing with Racism)



Racism; it’s a buzzword that catches headlines in the never-ending news cycle these days and it’s also something we’ve encountered frequently throughout this journey together. In this first of a two part series, we share our personal experiences individually and as a couple in regards to discrimination based on stereotypes.

Important Note: We are risking a lot by sharing our experience in podcast form, so if you're coming to the table to listen, do simply that. Everyone has their right to express their own experiences in their own unique way, and we boldly invite you to the table for a different kind of conversation. Encouraging words and genuine questions are welcome. However, we do not tolerate hate speech or words without thought, so if you have questions, asking them mindfully & try not to dehumanize us in the process.

References to historical stories read are included below in the Time Stamps.

Time Stamps:

0:01: Important Note from Brandon

1:26: Welcome

2:04: Our Collective Racial Experience as a Couple

23:34: B Reads Historical Reference - The Story of Ossian Sweet (from Carol Anderson’s, White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, p56)

29:55: Brandon reflects on Ossian Sweet

31:20: Amy Beth Shares the White Experience

41:35: Amy Beth Reads Historical Reference - The Behind the Scenes Story of President Reagan (from Carol Anderson’s, White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, p124)

46:10: Amy Beth reflects on Reagan

47:35: Brandon Shares the Black Experience

1:08:21: IN CLOSING - Talking About Race With One Another

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Song Credits:

- in my life by datfootdive

- Ancestry by Axian, Kuranes

- sorry by chief.

- 90s Mindz by Dr. Drumah